MikeWs Fish Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 is it possible to mix ichnovex and flagul for ich and bloat in the one hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 If anyone knows the answer to this id appreciate a quick response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtchye Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 As far as I know there are no metronidazole interactions with formalin or malachite green, which is what I suspect would be in your ich medications. However, no documented interactions does not mean that there aren't any, so if possible I guess I'd try to treat for them separately. You could try salt and raised temperature for ich too, if your fish will tolerate it. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 ive put a dose of ichnovex in the tank. I havent seen much scrathcing since then, but i did notice on one of my fish, some whits spots around the gills etc. I'm just wondering how long it should take for the whitespots to disappear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canerod Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 At a temp of about 25c the ich parasite takes about 5 days to complete its lifecycle so you need to keep up the meds for at least a week and if you can up the temp to about 28 the ich lifecycle will be shorter. At 25c i would med for close to 2 weeks to be sure. dont be tempted to stop just because the fish stop scratching because any parasites that survive treatment have the ability to help their kind become medication resistant, and we should all make sure that never happens because it will make control almost impossible in the future. If using salt use non iodised salt or marine salt , I read that the concentration is supposed to be about 0.05 % so i guess that would be about 500grams salt to 100 lt water hth Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 Thanks for that info - its just confusing because on the bottle of medicine, it says to remedicate after 3 days. So do you think I should medicated every day for a week? I'm not 100 percent sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfish Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Mike i would go by the insructions on the bottle and re medicate every three days, medicating every day could kill your fish, hope that helps Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 Thanks Daniel. It did day on the bottle - 'DO NOT OVERDOSE' Well a bit of an update - My protomelas looks a bit better. He's swimming around and defending his territory now whereas before the medication he'd swim up into the corner and gasp. Aulonocaras - still look a bit droopy and one still has a few spots. I think i will redose with flagyl soon. and then follow up with a dose of ichonex on both tanks on Monday night Pseudos - still scratchong a bit - I REALLY dont wanna lose any of them they're my favourite fish. When is the best time to do a water change? I medicated the tanks last night. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canerod Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 I'd do the water change before remedicating at the 3 day intervals, and give the gravel/sand a good vacuum to suck up as many ich cysts as possible. Sorry if i gave you the wrong idea yesterday. I did not mean to suggest that you med daily for a week, but rather that you med according to the bottle instructions but maintain the dosage for at least a week and preferably two weeks(ie, today ,3days, 6days, 9days, etc). a few good places to have a look at: http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/disease/whitespot.htm http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/hdwspot.htm http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_FA006 Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted September 18, 2004 Author Share Posted September 18, 2004 Thanks Bob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazimbwe Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 If your fish are not in a high state of stress from the illness you can up your temp to 28-30deg-C. As Canerod has pointed out, the increase in the temp quickens the cycle of the WS...gravel Vac's plus a 2 week course of treatment should fix any ich you have. Then may be a better time to assess the need for other medication. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted September 19, 2004 Author Share Posted September 19, 2004 Bit of an update - whitespots are disappearing gonna hit em with a water change 2morrow in all my tanks as well as some ichonex then repeat the process for about 2 weeks with a 3 day cycle. That should get em good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted September 20, 2004 Author Share Posted September 20, 2004 Just did 50 percent water changes cleaning the gravel and dosed the tanks with ichonex (second round of dosages) casualties = 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita_ozfish Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Just make sure that you don't transfer the hose or whatever you are using, into another uninfected tank. White spot spreads sooo quickly. You should sit your nets in a bucket of the solution as well just to be on the safe side - and don't transfer your hands from one tank to another Hope it continues to go well for you Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted September 21, 2004 Author Share Posted September 21, 2004 Yeah too right Anita, I put a fry basket in another tank (which i medicated just in case) and then suddenly all my occies in that tank started scrathing themselves. they since have stopped but its a very contageous germ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted September 21, 2004 Author Share Posted September 21, 2004 Bad news. I knew it was ominous when i said casualties = 0 I just lost the majority of a 240L tank! 1 pair of black calvus 1 pair of gold compz 1 pair if cyps 1 harem of blue occies 1 harem on n multis I dont know what went wrong. Nitrogen is up but i think you'd expect that with dead fish lying around. Maybe too much medication - my other tank which i medicated is doing fine. whatever happened it was a very expensive mistake Plus to make matters worse, I cracked the lid to another tank when trying to remove all the dead fish. I did a 50 percent water change the night before and added all the aquatan etc put ichonex in aswell as a dose of flagyl. Carried out the same procedure on my mbuna tank with no ill effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWs Fish Posted September 23, 2004 Author Share Posted September 23, 2004 Ive cleared out the remaining stock out of this tank and im just wondering what the best thing to do is as far as the steps involved in putting fish back in there? Cheers, Mike W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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