thermofish Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 I'll ask this question in this forum since some of you guys and girls probably have had the same problem. Ive got a Cuban (21cm male) and a texan (15cmish female) in a 4x2x2. They will kill anything else that goes in the tank, except for really big yabbies and for some strange reason a wee itty bitty bronze catfish i used as a test fish. (another one got slaughtered but one lives on) The Cuban has also apparently killed (and eaten, bit by bit) a couple of pleco's, bottlenose cats in the past (thats why he was given to me). Is there any tought as nuts catfish out there that will hold its own, help keep my tank clean and add a bit of interest to my tank. Im just getting a bit bored with a 4x2 that has only two medium size fish that dont like company or plants. Any other ideas ??: Cheers !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Hey,what ended up happening with the convict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 get a cat of similar size perhaps.I have a bass and 2 eel tail cats with no problems.The cats are only slightly smaller in length than the bass The cat sometimes even sleeps in the same PVC pipe as the bass :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermofish Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 hey, CalvusToTheRescuehandle change hey.Sorry mate after coming out ot quarantine it only survived a couple of days.It found itself a nice little home and everything was peacefull, then one day they had enough of it and killed it.sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokedamage Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 a couple of salmon cats of tandanus cats?the tandy is a bit squishy, but when they get bigger they can handle themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermofish Posted December 9, 2003 Author Share Posted December 9, 2003 Would a pictus cat do any good? i like the look of the them more than the others.cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffagus Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 I woudn't recomed a pictus cat it will most likely get swallowed with the chance of getting its spines lodged in the predators throat and you would most likely loose them both. Yabbies with fish can be deadly too I've seen largish cichlids taken down by a hungry yabbie at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermofish Posted December 9, 2003 Author Share Posted December 9, 2003 OH.... KAY then.i think i better put my giant yabbies back in their other home. (or frypan)cant have them taking out my fish.thanks for the tip.i miss the old emmoticons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Hey there, I would try salmon cats they seem to go pretty good with larger cichlids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citypainter Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 In my opinion you have a teritory problem.You need to move both fish. Let other fish come in and establish a territory.Let them have it for at least a month and then you might be able to put your killer fish back in.Make sure that the tank is completely diferent in its arrangements before you reintroduce them back in.Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcichlid Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Yeah, Cubans can be a problem. They seem to change virtually overnight into killers. I have a large male who has shared with a pair of hartwegi, a urupthalmus and a very big flagtail prochilidous plus a couple of catfish ( a small featherfin and a siamamensis) and suddenly went besrk and hammered the large male hartwegi so bad that I had to isolate him, treat him for 2 weeks until he finally recovered. He's nipped at the other fish as well ( plus I had to remove a large Leporinis from the tank as he was obviously selected as the Cubans next victim) but has never shown any interest in the catfish. In my experience salmon tail catfish are a bit vunerable (I've had 2 killed by large oscars) and whilst a big tandanus might hold his own, the tandanus himself could become a problem with other fish unless its a very big tank. Only suggestions I can make are pretty expensive - maybe a full grown Hoplo catfish or a big Gibbiceps will survive ( although you say he's killed plecos who are similarly 'armoured'). City Painter makes a good suggestion - remove the Cuban temporarily, introduce some new fish, completely relandscape the tank (remove some landmarks etc) then reintroduce him. He'll think its a new tank, his dominance is gone ( at least until he re-establishes it) and he may settle down. Good luck Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 I would suggest you get some Salmontail cats, Tandanus cats or a big pleco or a big gibbicep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermofish Posted December 29, 2003 Author Share Posted December 29, 2003 i think im going to have to live with the fact its just a very aggressive fish. Ive tried removing him for a month while i relanscaped my tank, the texan and big blackbelt i had in there got on fine for the month, as soon as i put the cuban in he tried to kill the BB. I'll give a salmon cat a try but i dont like my chances, i'll hopfully be getting the cuban and his own tank soon, then i hope i can develope a better behaved community/gang of Americans. thanks for all the help, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cichlid kid Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 What about a similarly sized Pimelodus Ornatus? I have a pair with some large cichlids about 16-18cm mark and they get hassled on occasions but never look like being killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian09 Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 get a shovelnose catfish hopefully when its big enough it will eat the cuban cichlid and all ur other cichlids. would be wild to see hehe jk the relandscaping and introducing new fish never seems to work for long. The personality of the fish is aggressive and thats it. It will reestablish its dominance over an area once u put it back into the tank anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyndon Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Hey Thermo I've never kept one but how about a hoplo cat. They look pretty well armoured. How large do they get? What does everyone else think? Lyndon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 i dont think they get to big (if i recall 6inches) but yes they are very very well armoured. wazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermofish Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 Thanks for all the suggestions ppls. I'll try a few and see how i go. cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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