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Yeah its an absolute shame geos are not on the import list. How good would it be!!

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Wilsta the problem with the Surinamensoid types is that unless you

are serious about keeping locale labeled and separate it all turns to

crap like Aulonacara get to, but at least Aulonacara can be imported

and cleaned up

the industry in a lot cases from wholesaler to LFS are useless at even

getting a latin name on the tanks, seriously "Red Horseface" was fine

when there was only one species and could be sorted when we had

only 2 species as the Black throat Brachybrancus were easy to

identify but when the flood gates opened and novices and newbs bought

them with no education about keeping locales labelled and separate

and then started breeding them thinking $$$ the fate was doomed and

shows that now when trying to find what varients we still have that are

true to type

this happens in most countries I would think but our import restrictions

for these will end badly in what we end up being left with unless there

are still specialist Geo keepers still out there but with more people getting

out of big tanks and large fishrooms doubt in purity of species will be the

end result

I can see similar happening to Frontosa in the not to distant future when

prices lower for the newer varients and the general population start buying

them with out any education on keeping species true

stepping down from the soap box rant over

Chris

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Haha Chris, i see what you mean. I wonder how one could get some filtered in somehow? otherwise, do you know any sources for good stock?

I asked Jodi from FishChicks about D. maculatus and she said she will no longer be importing them because she gets too few sales. its a real shame...

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Thanks for the rant Chris i like your passion :)

Your 100% right. I enjoy the fact that geos have that enigma label to it. This is why I was drawn to them in the first place and after a few years without them keep going back to them because they are stunning fish with lots of character to them. The brasiliensis killed any chance for geos having any chance on the allowable import list because they are noxious species in aus!

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/pests-diseases/freshwater-pests/species/pearl-cichlid

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I agree with what is being said. Does this mean there is no true to type eartheater fish left is Australia. Someone must have some good specimens .......

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hey Chris how many years ago was species maintainance discussed :)

round and round we go

I hate thinking it but money sure seemd to be a motivation with regards to spp availability.

Just look at a recent one red splendida, none now heaps, so no green ones :)

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there are still plenty of good ones. just gotta educate yourself and buy from reliable sources

For us new guys to the forum, can anyone please list some reliable eartheater sources please. I have been in the fish hobby (owning fish and occasionally breeding fish) for 40 years and I have have never seen any eartheaters in my town , so I have no idea as to where to find a good reliable source. I have empty tanks that need to be filled.......

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Anyone know of any cv's about? after some juvies or adults

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Matt

haven't heard of any CV's but Keysborough in VIC had G. sp. Pindare

on the website list 9cm I think @$49.00 ea

give Meng a call if they interest you

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There is not much variety you can get with eartheaters in here. If you are lucky you can find some unique ones from time to time. Here is one of them I got a while back.

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Is that a Balzanii???

Ive heard a lot of people talk about them being arround, but no one has come forward to say they have some and if

they do they will not post pics.

Great stuff if it is myster619. :thumbup:

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Yes it's a balzanii and I would say female

be patient they will appear

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What is the current state of eartheaters in Oz? Do we still have all the same species as before? Any new introductions recently? Who still has Neambi and Altifrons? 

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On Friday, January 24, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Link2Hell said:

Wilsta the problem with the Surinamensoid types is that unless you

are serious about keeping locale labeled and separate it all turns to

crap like Aulonacara get to, but at least Aulonacara can be imported

and cleaned up

the industry in a lot cases from wholesaler to LFS are useless at even

getting a latin name on the tanks, seriously "Red Horseface" was fine

when there was only one species and could be sorted when we had

only 2 species as the Black throat Brachybrancus were easy to

identify but when the flood gates opened and novices and newbs bought

them with no education about keeping locales labelled and separate

and then started breeding them thinking $$$ the fate was doomed and

shows that now when trying to find what varients we still have that are

true to type

this happens in most countries I would think but our import restrictions

for these will end badly in what we end up being left with unless there

are still specialist Geo keepers still out there but with more people getting

out of big tanks and large fishrooms doubt in purity of species will be the

end result

I can see similar happening to Frontosa in the not to distant future when

prices lower for the newer varients and the general population start buying

them with out any education on keeping species true

stepping down from the soap box rant over

Chris

A large part of the blame also lies with the Australian misconception that mixing new blood or wild caught fish  into your stock is a good thing. If one isn't competent enough to line breed, why would out breeding be encouraged? 

A lot of well intentioned mis informed (by aquarium clubs, forums and societies) fish keepers trying to do the right thing have hugely compounded the problem. And getting species identified by posting photos or videos online for anyone to help? 

Another part of the problem is the value placed on fish. A well respected knowledgeable breeder should be able to sell their stock for 2 or 3 times more than someone mass producing fish from mixed species tanks. 

It's easy to lay blame and criticise so I won't. These are just my observations. 

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