Wilsta Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Yeah its an absolute shame geos are not on the import list. How good would it be!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Wilsta the problem with the Surinamensoid types is that unless youare serious about keeping locale labeled and separate it all turns tocrap like Aulonacara get to, but at least Aulonacara can be importedand cleaned upthe industry in a lot cases from wholesaler to LFS are useless at evengetting a latin name on the tanks, seriously "Red Horseface" was finewhen there was only one species and could be sorted when we hadonly 2 species as the Black throat Brachybrancus were easy toidentify but when the flood gates opened and novices and newbs boughtthem with no education about keeping locales labelled and separateand then started breeding them thinking $$$ the fate was doomed andshows that now when trying to find what varients we still have that aretrue to typethis happens in most countries I would think but our import restrictionsfor these will end badly in what we end up being left with unless thereare still specialist Geo keepers still out there but with more people gettingout of big tanks and large fishrooms doubt in purity of species will be theend resultI can see similar happening to Frontosa in the not to distant future whenprices lower for the newer varients and the general population start buyingthem with out any education on keeping species truestepping down from the soap box rant overChris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooder Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Haha Chris, i see what you mean. I wonder how one could get some filtered in somehow? otherwise, do you know any sources for good stock?I asked Jodi from FishChicks about D. maculatus and she said she will no longer be importing them because she gets too few sales. its a real shame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsta Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the rant Chris i like your passion Your 100% right. I enjoy the fact that geos have that enigma label to it. This is why I was drawn to them in the first place and after a few years without them keep going back to them because they are stunning fish with lots of character to them. The brasiliensis killed any chance for geos having any chance on the allowable import list because they are noxious species in aus!http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/pests-diseases/freshwater-pests/species/pearl-cichlid Edited January 25, 2014 by Wilsta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_S Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I agree with what is being said. Does this mean there is no true to type eartheater fish left is Australia. Someone must have some good specimens ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat williamson Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 there are still plenty of good ones. just gotta educate yourself and buy from reliable sources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Edwards Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 hey Chris how many years ago was species maintainance discussed round and round we goI hate thinking it but money sure seemd to be a motivation with regards to spp availability.Just look at a recent one red splendida, none now heaps, so no green ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_S Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) there are still plenty of good ones. just gotta educate yourself and buy from reliable sourcesFor us new guys to the forum, can anyone please list some reliable eartheater sources please. I have been in the fish hobby (owning fish and occasionally breeding fish) for 40 years and I have have never seen any eartheaters in my town , so I have no idea as to where to find a good reliable source. I have empty tanks that need to be filled....... Edited January 26, 2014 by Paul_S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~matt~ Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Anyone know of any cv's about? after some juvies or adults Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Matthaven't heard of any CV's but Keysborough in VIC had G. sp. Pindareon the website list 9cm I think @$49.00 eagive Meng a call if they interest you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myster619 Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 There is not much variety you can get with eartheaters in here. If you are lucky you can find some unique ones from time to time. Here is one of them I got a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridgie Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Is that a Balzanii???Ive heard a lot of people talk about them being arround, but no one has come forward to say they have some and ifthey do they will not post pics.Great stuff if it is myster619. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Yes it's a balzanii and I would say femalebe patient they will appear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridgie Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Waiting in anticipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myster619 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) What is the current state of eartheaters in Oz? Do we still have all the same species as before? Any new introductions recently? Who still has Neambi and Altifrons? Edited March 9, 2017 by myster619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishdance Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 On Friday, January 24, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Link2Hell said: Wilsta the problem with the Surinamensoid types is that unless you are serious about keeping locale labeled and separate it all turns to crap like Aulonacara get to, but at least Aulonacara can be imported and cleaned up the industry in a lot cases from wholesaler to LFS are useless at even getting a latin name on the tanks, seriously "Red Horseface" was fine when there was only one species and could be sorted when we had only 2 species as the Black throat Brachybrancus were easy to identify but when the flood gates opened and novices and newbs bought them with no education about keeping locales labelled and separate and then started breeding them thinking $$$ the fate was doomed and shows that now when trying to find what varients we still have that are true to type this happens in most countries I would think but our import restrictions for these will end badly in what we end up being left with unless there are still specialist Geo keepers still out there but with more people getting out of big tanks and large fishrooms doubt in purity of species will be the end result I can see similar happening to Frontosa in the not to distant future when prices lower for the newer varients and the general population start buying them with out any education on keeping species true stepping down from the soap box rant over Chris A large part of the blame also lies with the Australian misconception that mixing new blood or wild caught fish into your stock is a good thing. If one isn't competent enough to line breed, why would out breeding be encouraged? A lot of well intentioned mis informed (by aquarium clubs, forums and societies) fish keepers trying to do the right thing have hugely compounded the problem. And getting species identified by posting photos or videos online for anyone to help? Another part of the problem is the value placed on fish. A well respected knowledgeable breeder should be able to sell their stock for 2 or 3 times more than someone mass producing fish from mixed species tanks. It's easy to lay blame and criticise so I won't. These are just my observations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionJackson Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Anyone still keeping Geos? Great thread to read through. Currently working on breeding Rio branco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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