Breeding: white eggs/infertility (jags)

[vieja 0]

i wrote an earlier post claiming fathership of newborn jags... i was wrong..

it was pointed out as the eggs are white... they're not fertile...

but i am now wondering does anyone know why my male may not have fertilised the eggs?? it's their first batch... is this a problem?

appreciate any ideas

Edited February 24, 2005 by Willy Wombat

[MikeWs Fish 0]

there could be a range of reasons. sometime the girl lays them and they are not fertilized propperly because ythe milt doesnt get over the eggs because of water current etc.

I'd say it was that.

[vieja 0]

thanks mike

[Ducksta 87]

1. Are you sure you have a male?

2. Are you sure the male is fertile?

3. Did the male actually involve himself or did the female just spawn to relieve herself?

There could be a million scenarios. I'd give them time, a few more attempts at it, and if none of them are ever fertile, then you could always assume one of the fish is inferile (or the wrong sex?)

[r.d.m 0]

as ducksta said, dont write them off yet, sometimes with young fish it takes them a while to get it right, look on the bright side- you definately have a female

[MikeWs Fish 0]

I just (edit:)stripped a ps aurora girl and only 2 of her 8 eggs were fertlie. It was her 1st go at it maybe she didnt get close enough to the male. anyways plenty more where that came from. I got two girls holding (big girls). it looks like each of them have a cannon ball in their mouth!

edit: srtipped NOT milked - stripped

Edited November 15, 2004 by MIKE W

[Josh 25]

Its like the old saying " you cant pregnant the first time" give them a few spawns to get it right. I know fish do have fry at their first attempt, But thats more buy luck then anything else IMHO. I'm with ducksta

[Gav 0]

again with ducksta on this. its too hard a question to really answer without you having seens the spawn and knowing more details. often even once eggs are fetilised they can go bad without any apparent reason.

[vieja 0]

thanks for the ideas.... no hurry anyway..

i am sure they are male and female because he has a much more detailed pattern over his whole body with a blueish tinge through his finnage... plus he beats the hell out of my devil every time he comes within range (the nest they have established is where my devil used to reside) and yet he plays with the female jag (i've heard two male jags won't tolerate each other)

thanks again

[YeW 0]

Hi Guys -

The male might not be sexually mature ? As others have said?? Hard to say? Are the two fish related? Might be wise to consider outsourcing a unrelated male anyway .

"you cant pregnant the first time"

Little Swimmer - I have a good friend who'd be happy to debate you on this and she has proof!! LOL!

[yellow 11]

dont write them off yet veija i had a pair of jags a few years ago the male was over 12 inches the female was about 10 inches thier first spawn was successful yet thier second time failed.i gave them to st george and they kept them at thier store out the back and i know they bred at least ten times there producing thousands of fry.