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  1. I guess you can say so, but how much under the microscope (a*nal) do you want to go? F0 = WC from the lake, but what is Pond? technically is still wild, just bred from ponds on the lake, but is it allocated as 'Pond bred' or F1? Is it that when F0 fish are bred in 'our tanks' that then they are classified as F1, F2 etc? or is it when they leave the lake water? or when they start to be fed on commercial feed? And why should German bred be any better than Aussie bred? If you say that two F0s produced F1 progeny, (Filial system - only as a label used to make it easier to follow the genetics) F0 fish are constantly producing F1 progeny in the wild, but yet we still class all 'wild' fish collected as F0.... So back to the top, when is it that the line is drawn? In my earlier post (response to Rosco), I said: F1 from pond bred fish to be released back to the lake and to make whatever classification out of that but technically it is still the same water and the same fish are breeding exactly the same down on the reef as in the ponds by the shore. So I would correct my first comment and say that all the fish are still F0 and blow the Filial system out the window. *Perhaps the new biosecurity rules of batch testing can be a good thing that they have to run lab tests on the sampled fish; why not run gene sequencing also to find out the diversity and pop some gamete samples on ice for future stock.... hey now there's an idea....
  2. Just an update on P. saulosi wild population
  3. Yep we were extremely lucky to stumble on the pits and even luckier to see this guy return. In another video from a professional group (Earth Touch), they only filmed pits but did not see any fish. If you get the chance, you should certainly jump on it. The opportunity to to go to these remote locations with a fully organised and experienced tour guide may not be available in the future. Regards MacDyver
  4. Larry is calling for peeps to join his Lake Malawi Dive Safari scheduled for October. He is finalising the itinerary and will call for deposits. There are 3 or 4 spots left.So to give Malawi Cichlids a plug.... here's some of what you can expect ..... see it first hand with your own eyes, without the waffle you read on the net or viral info from so so 'breeders'
  5. Hi Andrew Just tonight we had Anton speak up here at QCG. He gave two great presentations (West African Fishes and Bettas) but has a library of talks to tailor your needs. It was great to hear about different fish than to the usual Rift Lakes or Americans. I mentioned that he was scheduled to speak with you down there, but he has yet to be informed of the details (it could be due to happen this weekend or after he visits Melbourne?). Anyhow showing some QLDer hospitality, having been on safari with him and meeting you last year, I said that I would give you a heads up. I will e-troduce you to him on Fishbook so that you can touch base. Cheers Ian
  6. No probs Mic. Could also be Kipili variant lol just to throw a spanner in the works ....
  7. Agreed with previous - not a Magara. Could be Nkondwe, Kekese (if rainbow), Moliro (if gets green) or Kanoni (but yours has dorsal pattern). I have not seen Kekese in the flesh but have the others. Nice fish you have esp. during display dress, but remember you can get variations amongst the same population. Great they are breeding for you too! Here are a couple of pics from Nkondwe Is. last trip. There was an algae bloom so viz was not the best plus no filter or strong light on the Gpro. These were seen deeper than O. boops and massive Cyp colonies but I did see some in shallower depths also. The link that Chris put up is a pic by Tim Nurse who was my dive buddy on that trip in 2003. Same featherfin types still swim there on my last trip 2014, just less boops and Tropheus.... Fit as many as you like, just observe for any conflicts and stress and remove to another tank (spare 1000L lol) before any damage. But 12 is comfortable by the time they get growing; plenty of free space for swimming and digging - looks like you have nailed that part already Your fish Recent trip same fish
  8. The Thirst Quencher Type
  9. FYI - on Cichlids of Lake Tanganyika on FB, quote by Ad Konings response to people's post on overfishing of endangered species. From Chris that owns Lake Shore Lodge in Kipili. Cichlids of Lake TanganyikaAugust 16 at 11:12pm · Please Read NNB!! A quote from Ad Konings: "I would like to clarify some of the misconceptions readers may have about over-fishing and extinction. Some believe that when not the last individual of a certain species/population has been fished out of the lake, there is still hope that the species may recover. Of course it is true that it is almost impossible to catch the very last individual of a species/population when the ornamental fish collectors are extracting fish from the lake, BUT you don’t need to catch the very last to exterminate a species. Every species has a critical minimum population density and below that, it is gone forever. With so many species competing for the same piece of real estate in the lake it is easy to see that each species needs a certain density to hold on to their share. In particular T. duboisi, who shares everywhere the habitat with a more successful congeneric, critical density is likely much higher than “the last individual”. Another misconception has been raised by those who believe that exporters manage their collection quotas by not extracting a certain species/population when they notice the numbers are dwindling. Chris knows of at least nine (!) different teams that extract cichlids from the lake. Even if there was one that would refrain from collecting a certain species/population, the other eight teams won’t! Believe me, there is NOBODY who would not collect a fish so that it can recover. As long as we want to buy a certain species/form from an exporter, there will be extractors trying to get it, even just a single individual. The local fishermen continue to catch till EVERY fish is gone. There is no alternative for these people. Some studies have been done in Africa’s lakes towards the sustainability of fisheries, words have been spoken, and laws have been made by the country’s fisheries departments, but on the ground it is a free for all with very little measure of control. They even prevent recruitment of young fish by also collecting these with mosquito nets in the very shallow water. Dream on if you think African catchers are “managing their quotas”. Regarding ornamental fish it is OUR demand that drives certain species into extinction; WE have to regulate collections, not the workers in Africa. There are about 200 cichlid species and variants that are or have been exported from the lake; all we ask is to refrain from buying a few of these, less than 3%. There was a question about the validity of information given on this page because if it was only me saying so it was not acceptable. I wonder whom we should ask about the cichlids in the lake, somebody who has been traveling, observing, and publishing about these fish in the lake for the last 30 years, scientists who have made detailed studies of particular populations, concerned citizen of Tanzania who actually live on the shores of the lake, OR an importer of these fish in the United States who perhaps has never seen a cichlid in its natural habitat? To answer the question about how often Tropheus species breed please read the study by Yanagisawa & Sato (1990) who found in their study area that T. duboisi mouthbroods for about 31 days and females recuperate for about 76 days before they spawn again. For T. moorii/T. sp. ‘black’ the interval is even much longer. It is possible that in the aquarium, where fish get fed twice a day and there are no predators, T. duboisi may spawn perhaps 4 times a year, but in their natural habitat things are a little more competitive. Also during the rainy season hardly any cichlid species breeds because of poor visibility. So, in the wild a Tropheus female spawns on average 2-3 times a year. Therefore catching 50% of a population in a single year is NOT sustainable for Tropheus." I didn't see many big Tropheus schools or boops nests when diving Nkondwe in the 12 year span from my first Tanzanian safari.If you are keen to visit this remarkable place, Anton Lamboj will be heading another group next year 2016. Start planning & saving now. But best of course is to go with the Ad man himself
  10. Nice write up Ged and photos too. Can you ask your friend with the elongatus if they would like a playmate? Cheers Ian
  11. Chris - sp. coatza he seemed happy with, but surprisingly it was the zonatus that got the sin bin..., It wasn't clear if he referred to wild fish or captive bred. They have kept them a lot longer than us, so might not be fresh news (think I need to subscribe to his website lol), but the words hybrid and guttulatus got a mention though... And whether his own opinion, as a collective or evidence from research data??
  12. Good to see you guys make it up here Chris. @Pat - I didn't realise you had attended. Did you like it when Juan showed the location distribution for the (inland) coatzacoalcos and (coastal) zonatus? I asked him about the two species later and he gave his opinion about the zonatus, which I got the impression he was working on an article or update regarding its classification.... Regards, Ian
  13. Dare say feds may have increased the likelyhood that introduction of species into native waterways might occur in order to fix a 'local' supply source ie. livebearers, anabantids as an example?.. even cichlids cough cough....
  14. Thanks guys, yes nice fish and good to read at least two other fish keepers have heard the locality before. Advertised earlier this year and have decided to hold and grow out.Http://www.aceforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=57507&hl=nkhungu
  15. Thought I would start a new thread from the trewevasae one...
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