Noddy65 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 OK...almost finished redoing the entire fish room filter...its something a bit different from the traditional african rift lake cichlid filter (it involves a radial filter and K1) ...theres a few leaks, Ill sort them out tomorrow...but so far so good....Ill post some pics when its underway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrox Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Looking forward to seeing pics. I need to rethink how I filter the fish room really interested to see how you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I will second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damoq Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Me three!!!When i saw your fish room last time Mike the water looked pristine and i can't imagine you going backwards with your filtration so this is gonna be good!!!Cheers,Damo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAM Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Noddy65 how much k1 you running ?I'am currently running about 200 ltrs all up in 4 systems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noddy65 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Ill be running about the same...ive got 50 litres now and will adding more as time goes on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noddy65 Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 The guts of the new filter...2 x 200 litre Blue Barrels....the one on the right is a radial filter (more on that later) the one on the left is full of K1 media (a moving bed filter)...Ive got a more traditional sump to the extreme left of the picture (more on that later)Why?...2 reasons really...I wanted to try and reduce my power consumption...the single 160 W pump in this will be replacing around 7 exisiting pumps, using around 800 W....Ive got 2 young kids now and am finding it difficult to manage so many sumps adn water changes...this will eventually have a single water change ability and will (hopefully) dramatically reduce the time I spend doing maintenance.Idea?...basically stolen from koi pond and aquaculture people....I figured if koi ponds can be kept clean with this type of filter then my tanks should cope okRadial filter...I was originally going to use a vortex type filter but then did some reading about this type of filter...commercial ones are used in aquaculture...it is very efficient at removing suspended solids...the retrun water from teh tanks is run up through the smaller pipe (40 mm) you can se in the middle, the water then runs down between that smaller pipe and the larger pipe (150 mm)...this slows the water down alot and solids drop to the bottom of the barrel..the water then continues on its way through the 90 mm outlet on the right of the pic...There is a drain in the bottom of the barrel and Ill drain it weekly...the filter has been running for a few days and there is already alot of stuff on the bottom of the barrel ....Im also going to put some large filter brushes in the to help hold onto finer floating materialK1 moving bed filter...super stuff this can process kgs of food a day...its used in sewage systems in the Uk to break down materialTraditional sump: my bototm rack of tanks was too low to plumb all the water into the blue barrels so they run through a traditional sump full of my old media...all the water will eventually go through the barrels...just not on teh first pass....the water from the barrels also drains into here and the 16000 lph pump is in here to return the water to the tanks....Im going to setup and auto top up system so that when the power goes out (it is NSW )....and most of the water overflows (through a bulkhead you can just see on the far left of the pic) it will over flow into a big tub that will then be used to pump back into the system when the power comes back on...Im using a float system to measure water levelsThe return pip from teh sump: its bassically a big circuit...Ive used Y fitting mostly so that there are no true right angles...I read a paper on water flow through pipes (geek alert) and turbulence and right angles are one of the main things that slow water movement downThe returns to the tanks...drop down from a circuit up near the roof...again, very few right angles were used here...the water then returns to the filter via bulkheads and gravity out the back of each tankIssues: so far mostly small leaks and the 90 mm exits from the blue barrels just arent big enough...Ill turn off the system on the weekend...repair the leaks and drill a 40 mm bulkhead into the K1 barrel to increase water flow out of it and into the sumpIm also waiting on my order of filter brushes and the auto water topup system...that still needs to be implemented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrox Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 That's some serious filter right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogboy Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Loving it mike. I really like it when people experiment with new ideas on filtration. There is just so much you can do to make amazing filters like this one. Keep up the brilliant work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFishkeeper Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Very ingenious, should work well. I use a Nexus filter containing a moving bed of K1 media and it works extremely well. And you're spot on about using large diameter pipes and avoiding 90 degree angles on your return plumbing, I used 2 x 45 degrees joined together on mine after being told by an expert that would create about a third of the resistance of a 90 degree.What is your head height on those return pipes on the ceiling? And what 16,000 lph pump are you using to handle that head height while only using 160 watts?Cheers, Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noddy65 Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hi Doug..its a laguna...the head height was 4 meters or so , the pipes are just on 2.4 meters from the pump. I was going to use a Nexus but realised it would haev emptied my small budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrox Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 That gives me lots of ideas. I don't think I have room for 2 barrels but the possibilities are endless. Thanks again for sharing.Keep us posted with updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielsplakat Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 holy s***...! now that's beast filtration, love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chorrylan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Noddy,Are you using uv or anything to limit parasite and disease spread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noddy65 Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hi Laurie...that IS an issue...my usual 3 month quarantine will be extended..and yes...theres a UV on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GundamCichlid Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Awesome filteration mate! thanks for sharing and I would like to build a smaller version for my growing up tanks :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGCanberra Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Noddy thats great!! About to get a 10x2.5x2.5 so looking at filtering options as there must be better ways than sumps and have always liked the idea of the K1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malrift Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 hey mate where did you get the uniseal from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Mal is this what you want ?http://www.yellowpages.com.au/qld/morningside/uniseal-pty-ltd-13789505-listing.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malrift Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 cool thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malrift Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Sorry to be painful they arent open today so these guys will sell to the public.Thanks brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFishkeeper Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Hi Brad,I used quite a few uniseals in my new fishroom when I set it up around 4 years ago, I got them from Uniseal at Morningside. I placed the order by phone, paid by credit card over the phone, and they were mailed out. They were quite reasonably priced and arrived within a couple of days. Give them a call on Monday.Cheers, Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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