yanke Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 hi allI got some ELLIOTTI on the 24th of this monthand they are always together but today they were nothave some wood in the tank so I looked on the other sideof the wood and there she was with about 50eggsonly 3 days in the tank and they have eggsand they are 100% perfectly straight pairnow to see how the fry come outyankep.s. ill get some pic. later of the pair and put them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myster619 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 What temperature was the water when they bred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanke Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 it was about 25c I did a small water changeI was trying to get the water down to about 22c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisho43 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Good stuff Paul, they should lay on a regular basis from now on, just need tanks to raise them, i found the most successful way is to take the fry away once they become free swimming, fry can take newly hatched brine shrimp ok and if you can get your hands on some micro worm as starter foods for about the first 3-4 weeks then micro pellets and ground up fake from there on untill they can take Blood worm, Mysis shrimp, and brine shrimp for some variety, good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonnieBoy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I would be interested in how the fry turn out ... I discontinued breeding Elliotti around 5 years ago because of the continual recessive gene that causes spinal deformities ... prior to that decision I secured additional stock from both Vic and Qld ... the breeding colonies that I was using then were not allowed to interbreed ( and I do know for certain that they were not from the same blood lines) The fish room diary that I keep shows that I only cross bred two times over 3 years of time due to the fact that the fry from these pairs did not display the recessive deformities (even after 12 months) ... I still have 7 of these stock, however they reside in one of display aqua inside the house and any breeding that now goes on is fodder for the aqua inhabitants ... a very beautiful Cichlid IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanke Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 hiwell the deformity caused by a parasitic worm and have found some thing that helps keeps it in checkand give a 99% straight frythe worm happens in the first 3-6 day of the fry lifethat is what I have been told now to see if it works and if it worksthen maybe we can all have straight fry and that will be good for alllet u know what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonnieBoy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Thanks a bunch "Yanke" ... keep me posted ... I will def be interested in your outcomes ... Cheers mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Edwards Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 All of the founding stock to the best of my knowledge had slight spinal deformities.The aquarium strain overseas also has the same spinal deformity.I am dubious about the parasitic worm theory, but quite willing to learn more about this theory.I am also curious to see photos of specimens deformity free.Every one I have seen that was said to be deformity free still had a slight kink.I bred the first ones in Qld and did not notice the deformity until a friend I gave fry to mentioned the fry had it.I checked my adults and sure enough it was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanke Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 ill try to get picbut then putting them on here well I don't know if I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonnieBoy Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Euan Edwards and "Yanke" ... the 7 E. Cichlids that I currently have in the display aqua are NOT 100% free of body shape issues they are the best of what I bred back then ... when I was breeding them all the juveniles were rigorously screened under very strong lighting in their 200L grown out aqua. It was my contention at the time (and still is) that under such lighting of the stock you should be able to discern and to see through their bodies and observe where there are issues of the spine. As they mature their lateral line will also indicate these. The 7 current individuals are not perfect BUT are pretty good IMO. I will also be interested in the outcome of your theory on the "worm" "Yanke" and look forward to seeing some pics ... Cheers Guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Edwards Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Yeah sometimes it is hard to see the deformity.I embarrassed myself by not seeing it on my own fish I'm of the opinion now they should be treated as an "aquarium strain", just like discus and angels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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