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<H1>Black spots on fins and some of the body</H1><DIV id=Qtextbox><P><STRONG>Author: BlakeyBoyR</STRONG><BR><BR>Some of my fish, peacocks, venustus etc. have recently developed black spots on their fins and body. It looks like someone has got ink and flicked it on them. Is this some kind of fungus or something ? Its around their lips, in some scales and as I said, spots on their fins. Please suggest a remedy and what this is

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cheers

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blake

</P></DIV><H2>Replies »</H2><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: nels87</STRONG><BR><BR>Sup Blake!

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Check this out -

www.notcatfish.com/health...w_grub.htm

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: lilhungsta</STRONG><BR><BR>i had that problem before too with my eureka reds and e.blue also my saulosi. I think its the water, after i do a water change the fish went better, but the saulosi stayed the same!!!

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: BlakeyBoyR</STRONG><BR><BR>Thanks guys but that still doesnt tell me how I am supposed to treat this thing

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: BlakeyBoyR</STRONG><BR><BR>Awww help me someone

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: Link 2 Hell</STRONG><BR><BR>Black spot is usually only in wild caught fish but I suppose the infection could have been brought in if you have introduced snails from a pond that were part of the cycle

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The treatment is to leave them alone as they don't do the fish any harm since they require being injested for the next stage in the nematodes development

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Maybe its viral or nutrition related ?

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L2H

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</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: gianniz</STRONG><BR><BR>get a twizer and take it off

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: SouthCoastGold</STRONG><BR><BR>I don't think that would be recommended and also a little tedious don't you think.

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I think I had the same thing once on one of my fish (I can't remeber which type) and I culled it, whatever it was I didn't want any of my other fish getting it and since then I have never seen it in any of my fish.

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Josh

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: Link 2 Hell</STRONG><BR><BR>Hi Guys as Josh said it is not recommended to try removing these due to the stress placed on the fish for no reason other than cosmetics

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I suppose it would be like being waxed or worse like having your nails pulled off ....... hmmmmm spots are nice

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L2H

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: BlakeyBoyR</STRONG><BR><BR>I worked out, I had used my net in my pond and then used it in my tank, whilst I was reasonably sure I had washed the net out, Im thinking maybe something hitchhiked its way in ? I DID find a tiny snail in my tank the other day which is odd because I have no snails ! I will leave it and hope that everything works out

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: chromis</STRONG><BR><BR>my venustus has had them before,i wouldnt worry to much about it,from what i have read sometimes keeping them in hard alkaline water which they love will cause it to develop....it is not a disease so apart from making the fish look a bit crappy it doesnt harm them

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: Pommie Dave</STRONG><BR><BR>Hi Blake

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I've experienced the same thing once before and I'm also having the problem at the present moment, both times with my female saulosi's. They're looking quite off colour in general as well as having the blotches, have you noticed that yourself? Their vibrant yellow has dulled to a dirty colour so I'm under the impression that they're definitely sick. It's funny I've never seen it on the males or any other fish.

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The first time I noticed was aftre I returned home from a 3 week holiday and consequently the fish had to forfeit their weekly water changes. A couple of them had these ugly blotches on them but it disappeared after a few weeks of regular water changes and normal feeding. But now they're reappeared as I've been really busy lately and haven't changed the water in a few weeks.

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So I'd put it down to the quality of the water dropping dramatically..... but that's just my stab in the dark.

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There's other things that make me suspicious but I'm no expert so I don't want to make a dumb call.

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please let me know if you suss out the problem.

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Cheers

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Pommie

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: cichomaniac</STRONG><BR><BR>I have also got the same problem with my moliros , here is a couple of pics

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</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: mtchye</STRONG><BR><BR>those look like melanophores rather than black spot parasitic type disease.. I hear its due to damage being done to the epidermis in some way.. maybe due to water conditions or bullying?

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Hopefully someone can be of more help

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: BengaBoy</STRONG><BR><BR>freckles?

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I have them on some Ilangi off and on - they seem to grow out of it. I dont think it is a disease or anything. I asked Wayne who bred these particular Ilangi and he was of the same opinion.

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Steve

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</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: cichomaniac</STRONG><BR><BR>I hope you are right Steve , it does'nt seem to affect them in any way and only some of them have the markings.

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Luke

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Ps Maybe that poor little guy with all the freckles has spent too much time out in the sun

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: BlakeyBoyR</STRONG><BR><BR>For some reason the spots seem to be mainly under their bottom jaw. They are REALLY concentrated under their body and around the mouth

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: BengaBoy</STRONG><BR><BR>is this issue related to the problem Electric Yellows get with black markings?

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: BlakeyBoyR</STRONG><BR><BR>I doubt it as its not just on my yellow, its on most of my fish.

</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: ellem3</STRONG><BR><BR>I think I have had something similar affect my cobalt zebras and exasperatus.

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The black spot almost looks like mould and is only affecting them around the mouth and the top of the head and slightly into the top fin.

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My fish shop said it was a type of fungi and to treat the water with a general fungas medication. I am using Wardleys Fungas-ade and so far the exasperatus are clear and the cobalts are almost there. I have been treating now for almost 3 weeks.

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Hope this helps, let me know.

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Jodie

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</P></DIV><DIV id=Atextbox><P><STRONG>Author: tropheusboy</STRONG><BR><BR>sorry to say, if its not the actual color spots of the fish going funny... you have black spot.

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as a couple of others have said there has to of been something come in from "the wild" - pond or live fish for this problem to appear.bad news=it cant be, or is extremely hard to cure...

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this disease most often occurs in newly imported fish and in pond fish. the parasites mature in the intestines of fish-eating birds or mammals. here,they produce eggs which, on entry into water, usually infect aquatic snails. fish most often become infected by tiny invasive larvae leaving the snail and penetrating a suitable host.

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in most pond and aquarium situations, it will be impossible for such a complex life cycle to be completed. therefore, these parasites rarely build up and cause a problem to fish hobbiests.although the larvae are long lived, they will eventaually die...

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TREATMENT AND CONTROL...

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treatment is rarely needed and is, in any case difficult if not impossible. avoid buying fish with obvious heavy infestations of these parasites and discourage fish-eating birds from visiting garden ponds to prevent the life cycle from being completed"

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from: The manual of FISH HEALTH

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pg's 178-181

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dr chris andrews, adrian exell and

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dr neville carrington

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tetra press

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i hope this helps a bit

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