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Its been some time now since this food has entered our market.

Good time now to see usage outcomes.

Not about a discussion on best foods, but reasons for people not using aquamunch any more or reasons for why they still use it.

Feed back would be great as I'm considering as a partial feed due to fish food being a huge ongoing consumable for me.

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I use aqua munch have done for some time they love it I feed fry nls once they hit 5/6cm they get aqua munch the price for 3kg bucket is great I would recommend it but each to there own all my fish have great colouring and are big and healthy and as we all know water conditions are the key

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i use the thrive and red but only 2-3 days out of 7 the rest of the week nls i find aquamunch does bugger all for colours ,but at the end of the day its cheap and you get what you pay for i guess , i wouldn't feed every feed but that's just me i have started using koi pellets with good results so when the aquamunch i have in stock is finished i will probally not renew it . thats my 2cents worth

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Yeah I was more meaning on adult breeding fish,,, safety with unknown foods is good to mix sera-flora and go from there.

Nearly all foods claim color enhancing and state their product is quality.

Just some of the research on fish foods I've done worries me a bit with this melamine (protein replacement) that shows up as protein when food is tested.

Melamine is longterm and short term toxic and well known to be used a lot in Asian made fish foods.

HBH use to use it but not any more as America has well regulated it now.

Melamine causes bloat, internal infection and loss of color with lethargy.

Not saying its got it in,,, but how to find out.

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A 1.5 mm slow sinking pellet Formulated and used exclusively by aquatic breeders with over 40 years of experience. A hearty combination of high quality proteins and carbohydrates. Does not need to be supplemented. Cichlid Pee Wee is a complete and balanced diet that promotes aggressive feeding, strengthens natural immune systems and enhances natural fish color, (not artificially or unnaturally manipulated.) If fed properly, it will not cloud or discolor water.


Main Ingredients: Krill Meal, Fish Meal, Wheat Middlings, Wheat, Shrimp Meal, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Wheat Flour, Distillers Dried Grains with Soluables, Brewers Dried Yeast, Spirulina, Monosodium Phosphate, Paprika, Limestone, Xanthophyll, Fish Oil, Lecithin, Salt, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, di-Alph Tocopheryl Acetate(Vitamin E Supplement), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Niacin, Caldium Pantothenate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex(source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Manganese Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Calcium Iodate, Iron Proteinate, Cobalt Proteinate, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Selenite, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Canthaxanthin, Astaxanthin, Beta Carotene Guaranteed Analysis: Protein 38% min, Fat 5% min, Fiber 4.5% max, Moisture 10% max.

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Ingredients look ok,,, but it's not focusing on aquatic vegetable materials like a few other brands of late.

A few spelling mistakes in their advertising.

Is this stuff in oz ???? Are you using it ????

I think at this point, it's not really a strive for quality in oz as we already have it,,, it's about the ongoing cost of food.

Producing fish and not getting anything back,, and losing/costing money, is very, very, very bad for the hobby.

I've always got prompt replies from aquamunch suppliers,,, two times I've sent questions based on possible melamine content I got no reply at all,,,,,,,, so I'm guessing they know it has melamine in it.

The price of aquamunch is excellent and I would really be happy to see and use a food at those prices at bulk amounts.

And most importantly feel that the food is very safe for all riftlake species.

It's a niche still sitting here in oz waiting to be taken I believe.

There are a fair few oz made fish foods,,, but why not riftlake specific with low bulk pricing ?????

I've seen tension build in fish keepers over the years about all this.

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Remember in all this,,,, getting into fancy with foods and getting technical is not needed and a waiste.

Why ?,,, because all individual riftlake species are basically specialist feeders and don't require much more than their evolutionary adaptational needs.

Additional nutrients in feeds do give benefits for sure,,, but not differences in breeding frequencies or life jevity.

The extras are more of a sales plaw by reps.

But we still have to get the food types right.

Pure vege grazers still consume small animal organisms that live and hide in the algaes.

These little organisms possibly may be more abundant at certain times of the year which gives a higher protein boost to vege grazing fish at times, and possibly coencide with breeding times.

So this is why very very sparingly a higher protein food can be incorporated to vege diets in these types fish to stimulate health and breeding.

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3 wheats AND
Dehulled Soybean Meal
Distillers Dried Grains with Soluables

I'm not going to try and sell anyone on one brand being the be all and end all of fish foods, but that indicates a very high % of not particularly nutritious ingredient.

Buy better food - feed less of it.
Fish don't need to "feel full" or be fat.

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Aquamunch thrive is excellent. This food is made in Norway I believe and is high in krill. I have been using it regularly with excellent results. The people I have spoken to that feed it to african fry are wrapped. The end result is it produces very littoe waste compared to similar products.

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3 wheats AND

Dehulled Soybean Meal

Distillers Dried Grains with Soluables

I'm not going to try and sell anyone on one brand being the be all and end all of fish foods, but that indicates a very high % of not particularly nutritious ingredient.

Buy better food - feed less of it.

Fish don't need to "feel full" or be fat.

This food here being spoken of isn't in Australia anyway I dont think.
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Aquamunch thrive is excellent. This food is made in Norway I believe and is high in krill. I have been using it regularly with excellent results. The people I have spoken to that feed it to african fry are wrapped. The end result is it produces very littoe waste compared to similar products.

Fry do well with many foods.

I've had foods that caused problems with adults but completely fine with fry.

This is because the grown adults don't require higher protein levels for growth and foods for adults cannot be excessive in anything that the body can't process,,,,, if these excessive unneeded things are present, it doesn't pass through properly and causes internal infection which shows as bloat or wound like lesions.

The fry's growing body can convert most food types for healthy growth.

I'm mainly questioning aquamunch for adult fish, where for me is a very, very large scale with high consumption costs.

Doesn't matter in large scale situation with fry the food consumption for fry as its so minimal and saving is neither here nor there.

My finding with aquamunch so far is that the fish passing waiste becomes irregular and not often enough,,, not causing bloat as such but more constipated as such,,,,, even though the high fibre reading on the ingredients.

Our known leading brand in oz is very good and almost infoulable (if not looking at prices), but with this brand I find it's almost a laxitive that requires more feeding often with extra waiste,,,,, but these type foods are very safe and hard to cause damage to fish by over feeding.

There's always big differences in a hand full of tanks with individual filters versus masses of tanks running sumps.

To me the perfect food would be like our leading brand at 30-40% of the cost and about 20-30% less in laxitive effects.

Cutting down costs and maintenance.

This isn't another food war,,,, it's the truthful ideals as many big breeders strive for.

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Sorry to give you what I have found by using this food. When I test any food I run the water from the tank through a micron filter this shows how much is being used by the fish in digestion and how much is not by how much waste is in the micron filter. The thing is I dont just breed cichlids any more. Many of the fish I am breeding do have issues as fry when fed the wrong types of food. I have only been using thrive for a short period and found I am having more success growing harder to raise fry since trialling it.

The other food I have found from aquamunch that has shown some good results is the colour advance.

My room is over 200 assorted tanks that have fish from different groups water conditions and so on. For me now it is kore important than ever to make sure everything I feed does not cause any issues.

My intention is not to bag out or start a food war. Sorry to give you that impression. My intention was simply to pass on findings I have found. 2 species I have suffer badly from bacterial problems and over a period of 12 months and many trials of different foods for these fish I use this product for them as part of my feeding regime.

For me now it is about being able to supply fish to the wholesale industry that have minimal loss through deformities and of A grade quality.

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Mal it's all good when there is a level headed discussion like this

and that's what the forum is for to share information

can you expand on the fry you have problems with raising and what

you were feeding before

what are the ones that give you the bacterial problems ?

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They were diamond tetras, bronze cories and metae cories. Have worked it out and now been able to supply to the wholesalers.

Which is now my business after being injured at work and having to give up my trained career. Spent the last 12 months recovering and working on my hobby. Turned it into something decent to help us.

I took this opportunity to go back to my roots of fishkeeping and breed some bread and butter fish and some old favorites.

These 3 are well known to be prone to bacterial attacks as young fish. I tried several different brands and many different types of foods.

I suppose what I like about the aquamunch foods is that the main ingredients is krill content is extremely high. I also found that waste in the micron filter was very low. Which helps with the production of unwanted bacteria out breaks. I am now averaging around 200 diamond tetra to a saleable size per quarter. This will increase with more breading tanks for them. I have to say it has been the best time I have had in breeding fish since I was a kid.

Its a new ball game when you start of with some of these smaller tropicals, especially when figuring out ways to trigger spawning and stop deformities and loss of fry.

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Glad to hear your injury recovery has been good and that you have found an alternate

income source that you enjoy :thumb

interesting that the immune systems on those fish is threatened so badly by bacterial

problems as fry and that a change in diet has made such a marked improvement

it's funny how this hobby can turn in a circle back to what got you involved originally

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The big thing I found was the use of pro biotics. I started testing with a product called mic-f but found continued usage very expensive. So I searched for a product that included this in its ingredients. I think what made me give this food ago was it is a local supplier here on the sunny coast. While I was looking at a few brands to trial this one stood out. What I like it doesnt just fall apart it holds its shape giving the fish more time to consume it even in a feeding frenzy like that of 300 cories in a tank creates it did not just spread out in mush like state.

I know other brands also contain pro biotics but they didn't hold together like thrive. I have been meaning to try some of the other aquamunch varieties besides thrive and colour advance but time has got away from me.

Everything I read especially on the diamond tetra mentioned their susceptibility as young to bacterial infection. I even contacted a former fish farm owner who bred many tetras but he had the same issue massive losses at a young age with the diamond tetra. I really wanted to work o this tetra because of its beauty when in large schools. One asian breeder I spoke too said they had to mass breed to get a decent number through. Losing 2/3rds of the young.

I wish I could be 100% sure why this worked. Personally I think it is the lack of waste. As the stage of loss was changing from brine shrimp to larger foods. Like I said I tried various foods but when checking for infection they all showed the same thing. Until this food was tried.

I agree there is what looks to be a lot of wheat and soy in the first 10 ingredients but when compared to the main ingredient krill it is very low %age wise. If I remember right on questioning one guy who looked into this product and spoje to the manufacturer he said it was something like 70% krill. But dont qoute me on that.

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Sorry to give you what I have found by using this food. When I test any food I run the water from the tank through a micron filter this shows how much is being used by the fish in digestion and how much is not by how much waste is in the micron filter. The thing is I dont just breed cichlids any more. Many of the fish I am breeding do have issues as fry when fed the wrong types of food. I have only been using thrive for a short period and found I am having more success growing harder to raise fry since trialling it.

The other food I have found from aquamunch that has shown some good results is the colour advance.

My room is over 200 assorted tanks that have fish from different groups water conditions and so on. For me now it is kore important than ever to make sure everything I feed does not cause any issues.

My intention is not to bag out or start a food war. Sorry to give you that impression. My intention was simply to pass on findings I have found. 2 species I have suffer badly from bacterial problems and over a period of 12 months and many trials of different foods for these fish I use this product for them as part of my feeding regime.

For me now it is about being able to supply fish to the wholesale industry that have minimal loss through deformities and of A grade quality.

Don't be sorry to me mate,,, all information in the ball park is valuable,,, it's not just me picking up info but others reading to,,,,,, when I say don't want to start a food war, I already know what the best foods are like most of us know and didn't want distributors or importers doing as sales pitch on their own product as we all know this happens and who we are talking about lol.

I'm just desperate to find a safe cost effective formula for rift lake fish.

Tetras and corys can take meaty-er products.

And I agree, more waiste of any type promotes gram-negative bacteria types especially in long term well matured systems.

Agreed also that aquamunch is a incredibly clean food,,, after feeding and fish excretion wise.

But if a pellet of any aquamunch type is dropped in the water to soak then observed the following day it is still well in tact and doesn't even fall apart if you prod or poke it,, and that scares me a little, but that's why it's so clean to use.

If I feed aquamunch for two weeks some fish types lose a little color and most fish become fairly round gutted.

Then I switch to the leading brand for two weeks and bellies go back to straight or slight plump and they are back to regular excreting.

I have a display tank with Ellioti and heaps of bleeding heart tetra,, I feed aquamunch color advance, great color and health and not one issue.

It seems that rift lake fish require a more specific intake,,, though maybe 30% out of 150 species seem fine with aquamunch,, mainly being predators.

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Malrift,,,, have you tried brine shrimp micro pellet from fishwerx ????? Very very good.

Also another to check out which does all sizes from dust to eventual micro pellet to crumble sizes is otohime hirame (my choice of fry food).

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I am finding this topic a really interestig read, so good to read other peoples views on different foods. i also have been using Aquamunch to feed S,A, eartheaters and C.A. Eliotti, along with a variety of other pellets and frozen foods. I have found the New Era soft pellet for S.A. cichlids also to be accepted readily by all of my fish and spawn on a regular basis. I also maintain a very regular water change to all tanks, sometimes twice a week and so far have not experienced any visible problems. I must admit i have not heard of some of the food brands so far mentioned and very rarely find them available in my local stores.

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