malawi4me Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Hi everyone!I have never transported fish interstate before but I have 2 peacock bass down in NSW I need to get up to Bundaberg Queensland. Im flying down to visit friends in a couple of weeks and concidering flying them back with me.Fish are approx 15cm.My questions are:Has anyone traveled interstate via flight and brought fish with them?Are they reasonably safe in the airlines care?Also how would they best be prepared, bagged and contained?Im guessing if they came with me on the flight they would be bagged for up to 12 hours....Any info greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I have pinned the following thread that has a some great information. http://www.aceforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=50163 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Who are you flying with ?you used to be able to use your luggage allowance with your ticketbut they must be packed correct in an approved styro box that must be openand inspected when you check in - phone the airline for latest regulationsthings have changed since 2011 with compliance - take a roll of 2" tape toseal the box withthe fish will need to be at least double bagged if not triple due to them possiblyspiking the bagyou must have an absorbant in the bottom of the box that they approve andthere must also be a liner in the boxcheck with the airline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damoq Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 The last time i tried to take fish on a flight they knocked me back and made me send them with AAE, from memory that was a Virgin flight from Melbourne to Sydney, you had better call the airline first and double check.AAE has an office at Sydney airport so you could make a booking and drop the box of fish off before you board your flight and grab them from the airport when you land!Fish need to be double bagged and the box has to be lined with a large plastic bag and the box must comply with AAE requirements which has a fish Symbol on the lid.Hope this helps,Damo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I did it many years ago with Qantas, you can't check them in like luggage. Once you get your boarding pass take the fish to AAE, show your boarding passes and they will be on the same flight as you for a lower than normal cost ($50?), you then collect the fish from AAE at your destination about an hour after you arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi4me Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 thanks guys!!! how long will a fish last in a bag if mentioned methods are done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damoq Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 When we get our shipments from Germany they are bagged for over 48 hours, so they will last quite some time if bagged correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi4me Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 just found out a mate is driving up and has offered to drive them up.Would a box with water, bit of stress coat..dont feed em for a few days......taped up so it doesn leak and add a battery powered airator ? would that keep them going for 24 hours or more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckmeister Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Not sure if you have left or not yet but I would not feed your fish for a week (or more). fish can fast for weeks without food especially if they are well fed big fatties.If you are traveling with them then as long as they have water and plenty of air I cant see any issues.Personally I'd bag them with oxgen myself as per links instructions and maybe if you are concerned later in the trip break the bags open and then put them in your box with your airater. Float the bagged fish in your box of partially filled tank water with the airator but place some blown up emtpty bags around it to hold it in place in the box..The only reason I say bag them really is because I'd worry about my fish sloshing around in a box for 24 hours. You may end up bashing them to death.If you bag them like the freight instructions, the transport shouldn't be an issue. Take some tape with you and halfway check the box and retape.Remember to not over fill bags with water!! Oxygen is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccal Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Something not mentioned yet,,, the use of a Ammonia-lock product,,, (ammo lock).Three days fastening is all that's really required.Also,,,,, just a note, as not a lot of people know this,,, the ammonia (a direct waiste) molecules attaches its self to the oxygen molecules in the water,,,, as the fish breathes the oxygen the ammonia is taken into the body this way following intoxication.Now..... If your fish are in bags for extended time,,, then as the oxygen slowly depletes and the ammonia obviously rises.The oxygen running low towards the end is a good thing in measure as it reduces the uptake of ammonia.So half way or towards the end of shipping time,,, if you were to cut bags and put in buckets and add air,,, it's likely the fish will uptake a serge of ammonia and die.If replacing into bucket,, ensure there is twice the volume of the plastic bag at least before adding air.Many ammo lock products uses things like sulphur which replaces the oxygen molecule when combining to ammonia molecules,,,, thus usually directions saying don't use over 29'c as the products reduce oxygen Availabilty to a small degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 also don't have the box on the floor of the car as radiant heat from the road will transfer to the car floor an into the boxmiddle of the back seat is good and throw the seat belt around itbagged with O2 is best nice large bag each 1/3 water with Prime or Stresscoat lay the bags on the side in a styro box shouldbe snug against each other so they don't move aroundjust need to not feed them for a couple of days at leastjust check on them half way but they should be fine, have moved plenty of fish like this and never a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi4me Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 thanks for all the info guys! Im just strugling to find someone in the wollongong area that can supply oxygen? Im in queensland and trying to find it is a challenge....anyone know any options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckmeister Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Not sure on the area but most shops here have oxygen. Most decent guys wont object to a quick squirt of oxygen to help out hobbiests moving fish.Try ringing a few. They may bag them properly for you for free or a small sum.I dont know many breeders set up with oxygen tanks but there may be some here that can help you out.I've never had Cichla before but I do remember people shipping these and having difficulty with the fish spiking the bags so make sure you put on an extra bag imo (3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi4me Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 so far every store i have rang doesnt have it, trying to ring one last one at Albion park but im guessing answer will be the same. Brewery supplies want $300 to fill 3 fish bags..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorroz Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 When are you shipping these the fish ? I may be able to help out with the oxygen dependingI live in Helensburgh which is the northern most suburb of Wollongong..if your mate is driving north he will only have to make a minor detour as it is on his wayKevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I've driven with fish bagged up from Sydney -> Brisbane before.Left Sydney in the morning. Arrived in Broadbeach in the early evening. Did a small water change with some tank water I brought along, and bagged them up again.Drove them to Brisbane the next day lunch time.(Also had a clean bucket and battery airpump in case I decided they needed it.)They were fine. And I reckon would have been fine without the water change, too.Interestingly, I just had Cichla down from Mackay (bagged for around 16 hours for their flights) because I couldn't locate anything appropriate in Sydney :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorroz Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I haved shipped many large fish interstate by road and air and never had an issueAs others have already said the most important thing is the preperation of the fish before handmost important is to purge the fish/not feed them for at least a week at that size and ship in seperate bags /containers.At that size probably 2 buckets with lids and plastic garbage bag liners,half water and a air pumpwith air stones into them thru a hole in the lids would keep them alive for days.Bagged correctly will also see them safe for a long period ..at least 24hours easy.Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi4me Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Thanks for that offer Kevin! Only hassle would be he is leaving next friday possibly, but he would be passing you at around 6am.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorroz Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 umm sorry cant help you at that hour....probably why they wanted to charge you the $300 Maybe think about the buckets and air stones Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi4me Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 Do any of the Sydney store have oxygen and could sell or put in my bags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 there most likely are but they usually don't open till 10am and if you areleaving the Gong at 6am you'll be too earlybetter to try a garage with a workshop that has oxy welding gear toget a shot of oxygen just need to clean the oxy tip and be gentle with the tap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccal Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Improvise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodrog Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Try a vet clinic. They have oxygen tanks for animals they anaesthetise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi4me Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 they ended up leaving simply bagged without oxygen... last I heard they were fine in Brisbane staying in a tank for a night before completing the journey tomorrow. fingers crossed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi4me Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 they made it alive!!!! no oxygen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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