Link2Hell Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 while searching for a green water recipe for a fry starter I found this very interestingpost on Fish TB or Mycobacteriosis on Adrian Tappin's Rainbow fish siteAdrian was a cichlid keeper of some note in Brisbane many years back but heading intoNatives especially Rainbowfishonce you start reading and note the symptoms some will go "I've had this with some fish"http://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3456that linked to thesehttp://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2973and herehttp://rainbowfish.angfaqld.org.au/Book.htmif you don't look at the other links you MUST look at this onethis is, A Fishkeeper's Guide to Mycobacteriosis by Adrian Tappin revised March 2014there is a lot of text that may go over your head but persistespecially the last chapter it may change your ideas in tankmaintenance http://www.mediafire.com/view/7s3zqsora78syb3/Myco2014.pdfThis post has been promoted to an article 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Great find and well worth the read. I got part way though and had that moment where I went I have seen this before in some of my fish. For those that are interested in Rainbowfish Adrian wrote this excellent free eBook. http://www.mediafire.com/download/g7qzn85uqde8v8o/Rainbowfishes.2011.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccal Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yes it is extremely interesting, so many ways, either one can present in many ways (bloat, lesions, waisting and more).Through my experiences,,, there is absolutely no doubt that the highest KH levels you can possibly keep any fish in Definetely throttles and/or prevents these horrible diseases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjoconr Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Its also rather concerning when you read something like this:Mycobacteriosis Fish TuberculosisI did not know that high KH would help, I have been keeping my Cichlid at above 10 GH but keeping the KH high has been ready hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccal Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Some buffers raise GH and KH at all different levels depending on brand.Close to being a pure KH adjuster is sodium bicarbonate.This excellent buffer will raise your KH to higher levels that are wanted.Calcium chloride will directly raise the GH which I like to keep higher than KH by at least 2-3 increments.The GH has a very slight ability to hold KH a little longer.Having calcium is added bonus.Magnesium sulphate is used in small portions that also steer GH upwards.Magnesium sulphate has medicinal prevention properties. But not to much as it relaxes fishes bowels to much and can almost make them dependent on it for normal bowel movement.Still on the bacteria topic.As your beneficial bacteria become active consuming ammonia after feeding fish, the beneficial bacteria depletes carbonates at the same time, and to a minimum, the intervals between fish feed times, carbonates slightly deplete.Beneficial bacteria thrive healthier in larger numbers when higher carbonates are present,,, thus beneficial bacteria can to some extent outcompete the nasty harmful bacterias.Knowing this simple relationship makes problem free of common unwanted bacterias and diseases,Once this was practiced and balanced out and working, I was able to confidently disconnect all my UV sterilization units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5uka Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Scary read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick19 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Hi all i kept rainbow fish for years and this is a terrible thing to see fish waste awaythey will sometimes gasp at the top of the tank their desire to eat is still there they will swimtowards the food eat it then spit it out they develope sores some rainbows seem to be immune to itwhat i did find was you were better off buying stock from groups like angfa other than a random shopI wonder if a lot this myco came in with stock from asian fish farms.I now only keep tropheus its such a shame rainbows are beautiful fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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