Kartoon Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Hi GuysSo i have been having a look around my breeding setup and i dont know if im too happy with what i have breeding at the moment. I have some saulosi breeding which i dont mind. But i also have some hongi and xmas fulu. Now i really enjoy breeding these guys but it becomes a bit hard to move them as all the shops i have phoned have shown no interest in taking any of these guys. Im wondering should i be breeding something else? i have a 4ft tank that has been freed up and i am wondering what i should stock it with. Should i go big and breed some fronties or go tropheus route? im just at a complete loss. Thought i would put this out to the larger community and see what others think. Any feedback suggestions are welcome.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloory Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 If you go frontys you'll need a bigger tank than 4ft. But are a nice option if you can get a bigger tank Tropheus are another great option but i'd recommend 4x2x2 as the smallest for a decent size colony.Is this a standard 4ft you have spare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoon Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 Hi SlooryIts a big 4 footer. atleast 2 foot deep and about 1.5 foot wide. i have always liked tropheus Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Kartoonunless you are a regular or on good terms with an LFSreselling fry can be difficult without having somethingspecific they wantexpensive niche fish are usually not wanted unless theyare a specialist shop with clients that want those speciesand you are willing to accept 20-30% of what they will retail atstandard LFS only seem to want colourful fry 3-5cm that theycan turn over and offer you a couple of dollars for in store creditremember they are trying to resell fish that are also available onlinewhile carrying overhead costs that aren't shared with direct salesfrom breederswhat fish do you like ?what fish are right for the tank availableIs the filter sufficientwhat grow out tanks do you have48" x 18" wide is the foot print you have to work withFrontosa trio but not idealgroup of 10-12 TropheusDuboisi = cute spotted babies - just a thoughtgroup of Malawi mbuna like Msobo, Saulosi, Demasoni, Lombardithat show colour youngCyprochomis leptosoma - but you have the silver fish while young problemthe path is yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firthy13 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 breed something you want to breed. you invest your time and money in to this hobby. there is no point breeding species you don't really like just because a LFS will take them. do some research and find a fish that you are interested in like a certain species unusual breeding behavior or colouration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoon Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 thanks for the input guys. I will check out some cichlids and see what takes my fancy . I must say i would love some frontosa but seems my tank may not be adequate. what do you guys think of leleupi? I saw some at my lfs and was impressed by the Orange/yellow colour of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloory Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I really like leleupi! I've never kept them but may get some at some stage this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAL05T Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Guppies. Breed them and sell them to the shop for 50 cents. Colourful and always popular. Otherwise as stated breed what you want for the challenge of breeding as many species as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CichlidProfessional Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Breed what you find interesting, the money is just extra from the hobby, shouldn't be base on a profit.....but if you want fish that sell good, choose ones that have colour from juvies, and are not too aggresive, eg Electric Yellows and Bristlenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern1 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 You do not make money in a hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Just keep species you like and have space available to grow the fry when they happen. If you keep fish that make you happy, you will keep them happy, and they will pump fry out. The "market" generally finds the right balance. Fry that sell cheap are easy to produce, and they will generally be consistent. Fry that demand big dollars, do so because they are tricky, and are generally more heartache than financial stability. Unless you want to splash a huge amount of coin on the next new mbuna to enter the country and control the market for a generation or two. But that is no real guarantee either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damoq Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Leleupi fry are extremely slow growers but still nice fish!! If you can get your hands on some good quality electric yellows they will always be easy to sell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern1 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Have to agree with duckster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoon Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Hi Everyone. Thanks so much for the feed back. I know hobbies are always gonna be a money pit. We do it for the love not the riches right i have decided to try and move some of my colonies on and free up some space for fish i find interesting. Maybe the leleupi who know :D thanks again guys.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullyYellow Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Leulupi longiors are beautiful!!! I'm thinking of moving onto a leulupi and frontosa tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MpimbwePete Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Watch that the Fronnies don't start looking at the leulupi like lunch snacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Kartoon it's nice being able to sell a few fish, but with so many people selling cichlids aquariums now have plenty of places to turn. I've sold fish to aquariums before but these days your likely to get a store credit which is ok sometimes if you need food, but a pain when you dont.I find trading with other fish enthusiasts to be great. I learnt long ago you cant make money by breeding fish. I like to purchase young fry, grow them up, establish breeders, get a batch or two out of them and sell the colony. For me at that stage I have accomplished everything there is with that fish and I look for new challenges and move onto something new. Besides it's not about the money it's the challenge and the pleasure I get from interacting with our finned friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myster619 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Sometimes having rare expensive fishes can become a curse. It can take years of patience and risk, you may get bored and not know what to do with them. It takes years anyway to breed big cichlids. Years < - Keep this in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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