damoq Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Hi all,I am about to silicone a 3d background to one of my tanks and was wondering exactly how long til i can fill the tank back up and add fish etc!It is a flat background, not the ones with large lumps and bumps so I'm not having to worry about water being caught behind the background and becoming stagnant so in theory it should be a really easy job and it won't need a really thick layer of silicone!Any advice from previous experience appreciated!Cheers,Damo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 It should have the time on the tube but its normally 24 hours but I would leave it for a week before adding water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damoq Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Oh i was hoping that wasn't the case!! I was wanting a 3 day turnaround!!! Oh well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~matt~ Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 3 days is plenty of time before you add water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damoq Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 3 days is plenty of time before you add waterDo you reckon that will be enough time?? The drama i have is that i am putting a colony of wild caught kapampa frontosa in the tank and i really can't afford to make any mistakes $$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~matt~ Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 yep its enough time, 24hrs is enough ive put caves ive made the day before in my L's tank.. what silicone are you using? just give it a good wash after its cured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~matt~ Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i understand why your worried tho and not wanting to make mistakes alot of $$$$ there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.ng79 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Hi DamoqHope u are realised that WC Kapampa frontosa is very hard to find now. Hope you dont do anything wrong to them. i was using silicon V60 to re-seal my tanks, only 8 hours later i added water back into the tank and it's perfect. Very recommend you to use this brand Damoq.CheersPeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damoq Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Hi DamoqHope u are realised that WC Kapampa frontosa is very hard to find now. Hope you dont do anything wrong to them. i was using silicon V60 to re-seal my tanks, only 8 hours later i added water back into the tank and it's perfect. Very recommend you to use this brand Damoq.CheersPeterHi Peter how are you mate??Yeah i realise they are hard to get and very expensive now so thats why i don't want to make any mistakes!!Where can i buy some of the v60 silicone from??Thanks for your help guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~matt~ Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i would be using bostik v2 silicone, i know abyss sell it as they use it to build their tanks i think Le Aquatic also sell it which is prob closer to you? v2 is designed for aquariums,, http://www.abldistribution.com.au/p-8019-rhodorsil-v2-hi-performance-glazing-silicone.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ged Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Most acetic silicone require a curing time of 5-7 days for it to reach maximum tensile strength. You don't require the same level of tensile strength for putting in the background as you do if you are making a tank. Bostik V60 is an neutral cure silicone and the manufacturer does not recommend that it is used in aquariums.Bostik V2 is recommended for aquariums but once again has a 5-7 day cure time. Other brands to look at are GE and Dow CorningHB Fuller produce a acetic aquarium safe silicone called HBF 620 which has a cure time of 24 hours per 3mmSee below for detail. http://hbfuller.com.au/index2.php?page=shop.getfile&file_type=TDS&product_id=330&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=111I have used silicone in sumps and refilled after 48 hours but I don't know if it would risk my WCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloory Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Go the V2 Damo, it's what a lot of tank builders use. I've seen it for sale at my local mitre10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 If it was me, although your not concerned about the strength you need to be courses about what nasty's come out of the silicon while curing. Follow the manufactures instructions to the letter and if it says 5-7days I would be giving it the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.ng79 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Most acetic silicone require a curing time of 5-7 days for it to reach maximum tensile strength. You don't require the same level of tensile strength for putting in the background as you do if you are making a tank.Bostik V60 is an neutral cure silicone and the manufacturer does not recommend that it is used in aquariums.Bostik V2 is recommended for aquariums but once again has a 5-7 day cure time. Other brands to look at are GE and Dow CorningHB Fuller produce a acetic aquarium safe silicone called HBF 620 which has a cure time of 24 hours per 3mmSee below for detail.http://hbfuller.com....mart&Itemid=111I have used silicone in sumps and refilled after 48 hours but I don't know if it would risk my WCs.Thanks for good Info Ged.I was used only Bostik V60 to seal for all my tanks and has no problems with it and all my relative working in glass industry use it everyday for their work. But it's only my opinion, some people may has better ideas , please sharing around.Damoq, Bostik V60 normally sale at almost hardware shop. But they dont sale in Bunning warehouse, try Mitre 10 or any hardware.CheersPeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksta Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 If it was me, although your not concerned about the strength you need to be courses about what nasty's come out of the silicon while curing. Follow the manufactures instructions to the letter and if it says 5-7days I would be giving it the latter.I'm with Ben.If you absolutely cannot wait to pick the fish up for whatever reason - leave the background out of the tank.Is it really worth the risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaholic Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 V2 is safe after 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damoq Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 If it was me, although your not concerned about the strength you need to be courses about what nasty's come out of the silicon while curing. Follow the manufactures instructions to the letter and if it says 5-7days I would be giving it the latter.I'm with Ben.If you absolutely cannot wait to pick the fish up for whatever reason - leave the background out of the tank.Is it really worth the risk?You guys are both right!! I already have the fish so I'm not waiting for them but i have to house them somewhere while i get this job done and obviously i don't want to take too many risks cause these fish are worth thousands and almost impossible to replace!!Thanks to everyone for your feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbin4 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 3 days is fine for the background but give it a good wash as said abovetank I'd have to agree with Ben & Josh 5/7 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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