gexemp Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 well just got back into fish and it seems my beloved balzani are rarer than hens teeth these days does anyone know where I can get some from ?any help would be greatly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joller Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 just think yourself lucky you had the oppertunity to keep these fish a thread pops up every now and then looking for gymnos but no one really knows if they're here anymore, i think if they're anywhere it will be perth or qld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat williamson Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 They did appear briefly in Victoria about 6 months ago , good luck with the hunt . In all reality they probably need some fresh blood in them anyway . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarcom Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Hi Gexemp, welcome mate!Try this place, its here in NSW Sydney, it's called Clearwater Aquariums Ph -02 4283-1926, this guy has had some before, back in the days, but he might be able to give you a lead as to where? or what's happened to them?Not promising anything! but hey worth a shot! Uknow !I know that there are some around here in nsw & perth , But those that have them will not part with them, its sad I know!I have been looking for them myself, I have even heard that some people breeding the Balzanii just keep the fry for themselves, or are just keeping them as display fish & dont want to part wit them !!All in all, I wish u the best of luck, & really do hope you find them.Cheers Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazzafly Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 i ordered these from a qld supplier, 18months to 2 years ago, for the moorebank shop in sydwe only received x6they went in a flashthese arnt for the beginner i say i suspect there very scarce in the hobbygoodluck mateas for peeps keeping them for them selves i bet that happens but why would you do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishguts Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Hi Gexemp, welcome mate!Try this place, its here in NSW Sydney, it's called Clearwater Aquariums Ph -02 4283-1926, this guy has had some before, back in the days, but he might be able to give you a lead as to where? or what's happened to them?Not promising anything! but hey worth a shot! Uknow !I know that there are some around here in nsw & perth , But those that have them will not part with them, its sad I know!I have been looking for them myself, I have even heard that some people breeding the Balzanii just keep the fry for themselves, or are just keeping them as display fish & dont want to part wit them !!All in all, I wish u the best of luck, & really do hope you find them.Cheers Mark.Tony (Clearwater aquarium) and i brought 50 over from perth, where the guy breeding them, was feeding the fry to his catfish That was probably 10 years ago now.Nobody wanted them then(or new what they were) so they just died out. Tony hasnt had them since. they were quite difficult to care for and were prone to desease. We lost a lot of em.We brought them over here and put them into warm water when they were wintering and i think this was half of the problem. They have to be able to get down to about 15 degrees, from memory, for about 8 weeks of the year. we didnt know this at the time. The guy that we got em from was named Terry Rowlands and he had a nursery of some kind.His number was 08 9244 4000.maybe it still is???now that was a long time ago but you might be lucky...... see how you go let me know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dave Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 ....and that phone number will lead you to...http://www.watergardenworld.com.au/Dave(just another Clearwater customer!! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Terry doesn't keep Balzanii any more the the last juveniles were from the female I sent himto breed with his malethe story from Melb of the recent ones appears they were all female or whatsurvived werehaven't heard anything from QLD contacts so ..................the problem is with the males as they don't handle heat well and need a wintering periodso the tank temp lowers to 13-15*Cother wise you get the males developing Hole in the Head from keeping them at 25*C+maybe they need to attempt to rise again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozarowana Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 A guy I have dealt with in melbourne says they are around.His exact words a few months ago "Yeah i know of a few people that have balzani's." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat williamson Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hope the owner of this pic does not mind me posting it . I believe this fish was lost but it proves they were around in Melbourne fairly recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern1 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hopefully we can get these going again should bring this up at the next NSWCS for a proposal for a breeding program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 It's a female Pat and yes there are known to be females in Victoriabut it takes 2 and with no boys being acknowledged it will make thingsdifficult to bring them back againmaybe there is someone with boys or fry growing that might appear in the near future again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topogigio Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 before that photo was taken, i had 4 balzaniss, and i swear there was a nice thick male amongst them - I lost "him" the day after i added rathbuni tetras. "he" was thick, had a steeper head profile, and bright yellow on his pectoral fins/lower body/belly... the fish in the picture has died since, it wasted away when i shut down her tank (full of river sand)... they are a funny fish, they just wouldnt eat & hide alot if kept on their own, but when i added other fish (like baby GTs and robertsoni) all of a sudden they were more comfortable to swim around and eat... all i can say is there are 10 fish in WA from this batch; and these were perfect with no tail deformities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern1 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Hopefully he has some fry for all of us here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarcom Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Let's hope so... we need to save this species of Gymnogeophagus & keep them in the hobby before there really gone out of the picture in oz!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat williamson Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I purchased 5 of these from st george about 7 years ago . They were going gang busters , then went to work overseas and could hardly get any interest from anybody when selling them ..................its a funny hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat williamson Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 NSWCC breeding program sounds like a good place to start though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenstrat Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 NSWCC breeding program sounds like a good place to start though.im keen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 for a breeding program you need the stock and at themoment we seem to be waiting for something to appearwaiting waiting hinting ............................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myster619 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 any updates on these guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat williamson Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I have not seen any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccal Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I know of six in WA about a year ago that waisted and died,,,, hopefully not a part of that ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 It's sad Buccal, seems that when Terry stopped breeding them nobody elsemanaged to get them producing numbers greater than the hobby death ratesame story when he stopped breeding the Green Chomides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccal Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Yes well I think the Gymnophagus types need a focused breeder giving special attention.They aren't a fish that can become de-conditioned and nursed back to health.People treat them like hardy Geos ,,,, I have never kept or bred them myself,,, but Im guessing they may become more hardy as a well matured fish with its head structure as a older individual shows.I think a large number is needed to let them sort them selves out with appropriate partnering.Pulling one male from one place and a female from another has a slim chance of reproducing.Coming from a climate that cools of and warms up,,,, it's said they need a seasonal cool period in the tank.Failing to do this they will not breed,, and even more bizarre start to waiste away and lifespan becomes well shortened.The ones I saw not long before they died were only 12cm and real paper thin,,, basically dead fish swimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2Hell Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Males are the main problem in Balzanii as they develop holes in the nuchal humpif not maintained correctthe females I had no problems with and found it best to spawn them young around 7cmand yes I took it for granted they would be around whenever I wanted them againI sent my last female to Terry years ago and he had spawns from her and re suppliedthe hobby for a while but that was just before I got out of the hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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