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"Chocolate cichlids" or Cryptoheros septemfasciatus?

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has anybody seen fish going by either of these names in the shops.

I recently bought a fish called a "Chocolate cichlid" which turned out to be C.Septemfasciatus....

Now I need to find a female. If you have seen fish called either.... please let me know.

This is the fish...

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i know the lfs here in Taree had some , i need to go back and get a partner for mine... fantastic fish

Edited by Adam_J

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i know the lfs here in Taree had some , i need to go back and get a partber for mine... fantastic fish

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Now that looks like a chocolate to me...

But it looks nothing like my boy!

C.Septemfasciatus are in the same family as Convicts.

My one is very active. It has set up camp in a pile of rocks and it constantly

faces off with the pair of C. Spirillum.

I'm hoping that the company that sold the septem. to the shop that i bought mine from will have sold some to other shops somwhere and i can track some down and get a girl for mine. Keep your eye out for "strange looking chocolates" ;) :yes:

But you are right they are fantastic fish.

Edited by fishguts

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This is what he looks like...

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here are a couple of photos i found

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awsome find, hope you can pair him up :)

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is that what they call a blue eye cichlid ?

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nah, blue eyed cichlids are c. spirillum

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Love cryptoheros

That is C septemfasciatus

C sajica

sajica.jpg

I bought these as a blue morph of C sajica....but thought they were C spillurus

However I have C spillurus with blue fins....these have red...so maybe another morph

or could be C cutteri???

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C septemfasciatus are available from wholesalers from time to time....GOOD LUCK!

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Ive found a few more pictures of cryptoheros species....

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C. Nanoluteus.

Or these .... C.Panamensis..(red fish below.)....sans_t10.jpg

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When you find some....let me know

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or these C spilurus "yojoa"

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Edited by Rod54

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We can only dream and drool.......

There seems to be a lot of spirullum around lately.

lots of males but fewer females. I have a pair with fry now.

Still you never know. We might see some of these species in the future.

Nice photos BTW.

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" Recent workers have proposed the splitting of Cryptoheros spiluruspopulations in more than one species " p01671t.jpg

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Original description as Heros spilurus:

  • Günther, Albert C. L. G.. 1862. "Catalogue of the fishes in the British Museum. Catalogue of the Acanthopterygii, Pharyngognathi and Anacanthini in the collection of the British Museum". Catalogue of the fishes in the British Museum London. Vol 4; i-xxi + 1-534 (crc00035).

Taxonomic history:

  • Heros spilurus, Günther, 1862, original combination.
  • Astronotus (Astronotus) spilurus, Eigenmann, 1893, new combination.
  • Cichlasoma (Cichlasoma) spilurum, Jordan et al, 1896, new combination.
  • Cichlasoma spilurum, Jordan et al, 1898, new combination.
  • Astronotus spilurus, Eigenmann et al, 1903, new combination.
  • Cichlasoma (Archocentrus) spilurum, Pellegrin, 1904, new combination.
  • Cichlasoma spinosissimum var. immaculata, Pellegrin, 1904, junior synonym.
  • Cichlosoma spilurum, Regan, 1905, name correction (unjustified enmendation).
  • Archocentrus spilurus, Jordan et al, 1930, new combination.
  • Cryptoheros spilurus, Allgayer, 2001, new combination.

Current correct name for "blue eye" cichlid is Cryptoheros spilurus..... ;)

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The 2 images you posted from other sites...the top is C septemfasciatus ......

the bottom is C myrne

so....

Your fish is most likely C septemfasciatus (or a hybrid?)

head shape is a bit more pointed than Cryptos I have?

Got any better photos of your fish?

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i've never seen the C.Panamensis before, they're amazing

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have a look at these....

HRP_pair_web.jpg

Hondurus Red Points

or these C.Altoflavus

cryptoherosaltoflavusfemelle2iv9.jpg

it would be interesting to know just which species we do have here????

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I've been able to locate

Sajica(yellow morph)

Septemfasciatus

Spilurus (blue fins)

Spilurus (red fins)(cutteri???)

Been looking for the rest....but no Luck ;)

Yet!

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do you think that the red fins are cutteri???

I have just noticed that my pair have red fins....

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I'm not sure

"the Cichlid Room Companion" says there are several varieties of spilurus that may eventually be given new names?

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I found a list of all the species in the genus...

google some of these and see how cool they are.

and these dont seem to have listed the convicts (C.Nigrofasciatus) and the white variant...

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Female

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Female

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convicts were moved to amatitliana

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I didnt think there was any of these left in Australia everytime i have seen septemfasciatus advertised by wholesalers, temperalis are what turned up ?????

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"convicts were moved to amatitliana"

well there you go....I didn't know that. :dntknw:

That would be why.

Apparently this happened on 24th Sept. 2005.

I bet you didn't know that. (I love cichlid room companion)

Edited by fishguts

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I didnt think there was any of these left in Australia everytime i have seen septemfasciatus advertised by wholesalers, temperalis are what turned up ?????

now you can see how these things can occur.

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"convicts were moved to amatitliana"

well there you go....I didn't know that. :dntknw:

That would be why.

Apparently this happened on 24th Sept. 2005.

I bet you didn't know that. (I love cichlid room companion)

haha fishguts, that was 2 days before my 17th birthday, i bet you didn't know that.

grafiki013.jpg

whats that? :drooling:

joel

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