tranced Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 well i had a few drinks and got thinking (uh oh lol) i wonder if, certain behavioural traits can be transferred to fish, depending what environment they are raised in... for example, when i was growing up we had a dog, rhodesian ridgeback x german shepard. and two cats. so lets get it straight this was a REAL dog. anyways, the dog took on certain behaviours, that seemed like it thought it was a cat... it would paw the ground and walk in circles before laying down, after it went to the toilet it would 'scratch' the ground and try to cover it up... so im thinking maybe fish can be influenced by the environment they are raised in?? so, i put some corydoras pygmaeus and corydoras habrosus in with my gold occie fry. i wonder if the peaceful, schooling behaviour of the corys will rub off on the fry at all? at first the fry seemed quite scared of the corys and would swim away like crazy. they seem to be settling down as time goes on... also the fry seem to be sticking together more... anyways its probably the booze talking, but is it such a wild idea that a living organism can be affected, not only by its genetics, but also by the environment that surrounds it? i would love to hear peoples opinions on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbin4 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I look at it like this. If you had a bulldozer coming at you?? Dont you think you would get out of the way. But once you know that bulldozer is not going to run you over, eat you etc, your quite happy to work / live along with it. Bit over the top,,, but we all have to get along in some ways with what is around you. Try living with some neighbour's!!! I'm lucky But lots have to put up with heaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I think many of the worlds best ideas and theories have resulted from alcohol...lol It is a good theory and true of many situations in artificial culture. However, with the occies, I feel that "sticking together" is very much part of the natural behaviour of these and indeed all cichlid fry when small... Safety in numbers, etc. I think that as they enter adolescence and approach sexual maturity, they will behave just as they should - pugnacious little fishies, with their own personalities and territories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranced Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 anyone know what size gold occies will start getting territorial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfarrow Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 anyone know what size gold occies will start getting territorial? About 2mm - lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 for example,.........the dog took on certain behaviours, that seemed like it thought it was a cat... it would paw the ground and walk in circles before laying down, after it went to the toilet it would 'scratch' the ground and try to cover it up... I'm pretty sure most dogs do that anyway without being influenced by a cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiguy Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Ive had some major brawling at just 2-3 cm.Once they look like little Occies they seem to go at each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAL05T Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 for example,.........the dog took on certain behaviours, that seemed like it thought it was a cat... it would paw the ground and walk in circles before laying down, after it went to the toilet it would 'scratch' the ground and try to cover it up... I'm pretty sure most dogs do that anyway without being influenced by a cat Yep these are traits that are very much a part of the domestic dog, carried over from their common ancestors it's all instinctive like tramping down a sleeping area and covering their waste to hide scents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranced Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 no this dog seriously acted like a cat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranced Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 in case anyone is interested, i have 16 fry ranging from 3mm - 10mm, in a 12" x 10" footprint. with a school of 5 habrosus cories, and a random bristlenose fry. not a shred of agression yet, ill keep u posted as to when the carnage begins assuming it does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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